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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 14th 2023 edited
    Hot on the heels of "The Grand Whittling Project", I've decided to launch into another, even more ambitious one -- building my collection of many composers and artists.

    Currently, my iTunes collection lists 580 composer/artist folders. For some of them, I already have a nicely curated collection (or even complete ones in some cases), sampled by going through most, or all of their work that is available, and picking the things I like. But I still have many big names where my collection is very skimpy, for one reason or another. So I'm currently in the process of going through their work (what's available on YouTube and Spotify, anyway) and writing down the titles I find potential in and would like to own at some point. I also use Discogs and Soundtrackcollector to find out what's out there.

    It's a challenging project, because some of these people have ENORMOUS back catalogues. Also, for certain Golden Age names, I prefer rerecordings (and preferably rerecordings that don't have mammoth durations of 2 and 3 hours).

    I've explored and built in all my 30+ years as a film music fan, of course, but this is a more systematic approach.

    Anyone else attempted something similar?
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  1. I occasionally visit a composer's back catalogue when I come across a new composer - at least one I am unfamiliar with.

    However, it's rare to find anything as good the titles I already have.

    But, the advent of digital releases means that there's a lot of composers whose back catalogue is now readily accessible.
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    • CommentAuthorJoep
    • CommentTimeDec 14th 2023
    Yes, to a degree. It's a challenge.

    The thing I love most is building my own temp score/music libraries based on a certain theme.

    For example, I could create a kazoo folder containing;

    -all scores including the kazoo
    -all scores including the kazoo by one composer
    -all scores that use the kazoo as a mournful tool
    -all scores that use the kazoo combined with low-key strings in a certain type of film
    -all scores that use an instrument that sounds like the kazoo and combine this with something else.

    etc.

    In the end, I have a wide view of such a theme, and can combine it with a lot of other things, revisit the folder later on and add even more. It's a different sort of challenge that is never really finished.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 15th 2023
    Yikes! That's some project. Wouldn't it be easier to just create playlists of those "themes"?
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    • CommentAuthorJoep
    • CommentTimeDec 15th 2023
    When I only keep a best of playlist, there's room for some curiosities and a text file with everything I came up with initially.

    I once dealt with a director who wanted fairy-tale like music. Generally, I could search endlessly, but given the project, and timetable, there was about 10 minutes of score that I immediately felt was the most appropriate. Still, without doing extensive research, I extended the folder with 43 hours and 12 seconds of cues very quickly, just in case. Imagine, these were only things I was already familiar with, let alone what selections would make the folder doing a thorough search.

    In the end, this was the cue we used https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7O46j8 … mp;index=3
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 15th 2023
    Ah, I wasn't aware that you had "temp track" gigs. In that case, it makes sense to have folders like that, I suppose.
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    • CommentAuthorJoep
    • CommentTimeDec 15th 2023
    Even without them, it makes a lot of sense. I do want the grand scope of a singular composer, but I feel you discover so much more by working by themes.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 19th 2023
    I have done the same with playlists in my iTunes, as previously mentioned. For example, "The Religious Sound", "John Willliams' Religious Sound", "John Williams - Pop", that kind of stuff.
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    • CommentAuthorJoep
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd 2024
    And working by themes regardless of any specific composer.... I doubt you discover much more limiting yourself to a single composer you are so familiar with....
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeJan 4th 2024 edited
    Well, I have a "The Religious Sound", fan-made compilation too (an actual file compilation, not just a playlist), with various composers. I think a lot of the tracks on that were sent to me by Martijn once upon a time.

    But it's not something that I go all up into, like you. Care to share any of your theme-based compilations here, at least the themes you've chosen to explore? (I assume the kazoo one was made in jest).
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    • CommentAuthorJoep
    • CommentTimeJan 28th 2024
    Currently, I am collecting short villian motifs. For example:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkK7V7dh25c
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeFeb 17th 2024 edited
    I've come a way since the last time. Several composers I now feel properly curated. My digital collection is now nearing 3000 albums, which I know is peanuts compared to that of you two, Alan and Joep. But still several to go, especially some where it's not easy to find the soundtracks in question -- at least not to an affordable price (we're talking digital downloads here, CDs are out of the question due to insane shipping and whatnot). Donaggio, Sarde, Franke, Lai, Holdridge, Hartley, Robbins, Banos are some names with holes. But at least, I've sampled and listed the titles I need.

    If you're curious about which titles I'm speaking of, here's a complete list of what I currently need. When there are question marks beneath the names, that means I've finished curating them (but might be open to future additions), OR that their catalogue is so vast, I haven't properly researched them yet (Cosma being a prime example):

    Alan Williams

    ??

    Alexandre Desplat

    ??

    Alfred Newman

    THE ROBE (Decca, 1959)

    Angel Illarramendi

    ??

    Angelo Badalamenti

    A PIECE OF EDEN

    Anne Dudley

    THE MIRACLE MAKER

    Annette Focks

    ??

    Armand Amar

    ??

    Arvo Pärt

    THE VERY BEST OF (EMI)

    Atli Örvarsson

    ??

    Benjamin Wallfisch

    ??

    Biosphere

    ??

    Brian Eno

    ??

    Brian Tyler

    ??

    Bruce Broughton

    ??

    Bruno Coulais

    ??

    Carl Davis

    ??

    Carlo Siliotto

    ??

    Christopher Franke

    PACIFIC COAST HIGHWAY
    RAVEN
    KLEMANIA
    THE LONDON CONCERT
    ENCHANTING NATURE
    TRANSFORMATION OF MIND
    UNIVERSAL SOLDIER
    NEW MUSIC FOR FILMS
    TENCHI MUYO, IN LOVE
    PERRY RHODAN - PAX TERRA
    THE CALLING

    Dario Marianelli

    ??

    Dave Grusin

    ??

    David Newman

    ??

    Dimitri Tiomkin

    ??

    Dominik Scherrer

    ??

    Eduard Artemiev

    URGA
    m.m.

    Eleni Karaindrou

    ??

    Federico Jusid

    ??

    Fernando Velazquez

    GERNIKA

    Francis Lai

    LA BABY SITTER
    VISIT TO A CHIEF'S SON
    LEIFENSCHAFTLICHE BLÜMCHEN
    WIDOW'S NEST

    Frederic Talgorn

    ROBOT JOX

    Gabriel Yared

    PARADISE WAR: THE STORY OF BRUNO MANSER
    AZUR & ASMAR
    CAMILLE CLAUDEL

    George Duning

    ??

    Gil Talmi

    ??

    Graeme Revell

    ??

    Ilya Santana

    ??

    Jeff Beal

    THE DOVEKEEPERS
    TIBET - CRY OF THE SNOW LION

    John Debney

    DUMA

    John Morris

    THE SCARLET LETTER

    Lalo Schifrin

    MUSIC FROM MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE

    Laurence Rosenthal

    ??

    Lee Holdridge

    THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN, PART 2
    OLD GRINGO
    UNLIKELY HEROES
    EAST OF EDEN
    HEIDI

    Maud Geffray

    ??

    Maurice Jarre

    ??

    Max Steiner

    ??

    Philip Glass

    ??

    Philippe Rombi

    FRANTZ

    Philippe Sarde

    FORT SAGANNE
    HAREM
    LA FILLE D'ARTAGNAN
    LE BOSSU
    HELLÉ
    SISTER MARY EXPLAINS IT ALL
    MANGECLOUS
    L'OURS
    DIS-MOI OUI
    LUCIE AUBRAC
    DEUX HOMMES DANS LA VILLE
    ALLONS Z'ENFANTS
    J'AI EPOUSE UNE OMBRE

    Pino Donaggio

    DON CAMILLO
    L'ATTENZIONE
    SQUILLO
    ANTONIO: GUERRIERO DI DIO
    HOTEL COLONIAL
    MORTE IN VATICANO
    JOE PETROSINO
    L'UOMO CHE CAVALCAVA NEL BUIO
    COSI FAN TUTTE
    BRIAN DE PALMA compilation?
    TRA DUE MONDI

    Rachel Portman

    GREY GARDENS
    THE DUCHESS

    Randy Newman

    THE PAPER?

    Richard Hartley

    PRINCESS CARABOO
    DON QUIXOTE
    THE LION IN WINTER
    STEALING BEAUTY
    AN AWFULLY BIG ADVENTURE

    Richard Robbins

    JEFFERSON IN PARIS
    SURVIVING PICASSO
    THE GOLDEN BOWL
    A SOLDIER'S DAUGHTER NEVER CRIES

    Roque Banos

    NO SOMOS HADIE
    LAS 13 ROSAS
    GOYA EN BURDEOS
    SEGUNDA PIEL

    Stefano Caprioli

    LA FRECCIA NERA
    CIME TEMPESTOSE

    Steve Jablonsky

    THE ISLAND

    Stu Phillips

    FOLLOW ME

    Sunglasses Kid

    ??

    Sylvester Levay

    MEDICOPTER
    COBRA

    Taro Iwashiro

    ??

    Toydrum

    PREVENGE

    Victor Young

    SAMSON & DELILAH/THE QUIET MAN

    Vladimir Cosma

    ??

    Yann Latour

    THREE MINUTES TO EIGHT
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    • CommentAuthortjguitar
    • CommentTimeMay 14th 2024
    You never got Jablonsky's The Island? I think I picked up some of those Christopher Franke albums for dirt cheap many years ago...
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMay 14th 2024
    tjguitar wrote
    You never got Jablonsky's The Island? I think I picked up some of those Christopher Franke albums for dirt cheap many years ago...


    The list above is from February, so outdated now. There have been some changes.

    I had THE ISLAND (digitally) a few years back, but probably lost it in the harddrive crash. I have it again now, thankfully. Of the Frankes I wanted, I've also managed to find some -- except NEW MUSIC FOR FILMS, VOL. 2.

    Glad to see you pop by, tjguitar!
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    • CommentAuthortjguitar
    • CommentTimeMay 14th 2024
    You should see if where you bought it from lets you donwload again.

    I checked my Amazon Digital purchase history and found some albums that weren't on my current hard drive, and it let me download them again at no charge.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeJun 22nd 2024 edited
    I considered making a THIRD thread called "The Grand Listening Project", but I decided it was enough for now.

    But that's what I currently am doing, after building and curating my collection a bit.

    I'm currently listening through ALL of my collection, some 3000 titles worth. I start with the file collection in iTunes (at "B" and Brian Tyler now), skipping those I also have on CD, and when I get to "J" and John Williams -- which will be a LONG time yet -- I will start playing my CDs. That's because Williams is first on my shelf. Then I'll continue playing both the digital and physical for the remainder (I have to go back and play those CDs I skipped prior to Williams). Sounds terribly complex, and I don't think I explained it very well, but I've never attempted something similar before.

    And of course, it's not a project set in stone. I also play LPs now and then, new soundtracks and other things, and if I just want to play something random in my collection, I'll do that too.

    But the BASE project is doing it in that order I mentioned.

    Ridiculous, but ya gotta mix things up a bit sometimes. Anyone ever attempted something similar?
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  2. It's certainly a grand project. Have you calculated roughly how long listening to your collection will take you?

    If I were to embark on such a thing composers would be alphabeticised by surname. Doing it by first name is just madness! wink
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeJun 24th 2024 edited
    FalkirkBairn wrote
    It's certainly a grand project. Have you calculated roughly how long listening to your collection will take you?


    iTunes says 94 days of continous playing. Obviously, I can't play continously, so multiply that by 3 or 4, I think. I suppose we're talking a year here, maybe two.

    If I were to embark on such a thing composers would be alphabeticised by surname. Doing it by first name is just madness! wink


    He, he...yeah, I've organized by first name. I don't like the "look" of having the last name first, neither in my folders nor in my iTunes (John Williams looks better than Williams, John).
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    • CommentAuthorJoep
    • CommentTimeJul 8th 2024
    Chipping in with something entirely different, but reluclant to open a new thread... For the past 7 days I have tried to compile 'infamous' 30 minutes long Varese compilations of scores I think are essential. It's all about killing your darlings, trial and error, but to a degree with some of these scores it worked out rather well. Even, sometimes deciding not to include a representative or quintessential cue. I have done this before in the form of a challenge with someone else, comparing and discussing differences.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTime7 days ago
    That's more in line with the "Grand Whittling Project" thread, if I understand you correctly -- i.e. downsizing scores to the typical Varese 30-minute runtime of yesteryear. Cool project, though!
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