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- CommentAuthorEdmund Meinerts
- CommentTimeFeb 18th 2018
Fair enough. I guess I like to be a bit more analytical, at least the first time through a score, really get to know every nook and cranny, and then decide for myself what is worth revisiting going forward.
This may explain why I never listen to as much music as I would like. It just takes too damn long! -
- CommentAuthorjb1234
- CommentTimeFeb 19th 2018
I still haven't been able to make it through Black Panther because every time I hear a decent cue, it's followed by one that's mostly just drumming and electronics and I completely lose interest. By all reports, it works great in the film and is one of the better MCU scores but as a soundtrack release, it's an utter failure. -
- CommentAuthorEdmund Meinerts
- CommentTimeFeb 19th 2018
It would be a great release if the lengthy version was offered (digital-only if need be) in addition to a well-produced album edit...alas... -
- CommentTimeFeb 19th 2018
1. Wakanda Origins
2. Royal Talon Fighter
3. Wakanda
4. Warrior Falls
5. The Jabari
6. Waterfall Fight
7. Ancestral Plane
8. Casino Brawl
9. Busan Car Chase
10. Is This Wakanda?
11. Killmonger vs T'Challa
12. Loyal to the Throne
13. Wake Up T'Challa
14. The Great Mound Battle
15. Glory to Bast
16. The Jabari Pt II
17. A Kings Sunset
18. A New Day
19. Spaceship Bugatti
20. United Nations / End Titles
69 minutes. It's really tough to leave ANY of those cues out!
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- CommentTimeFeb 19th 2018
Really? There's a lot of African drumming and chanting I would scrap. -
- CommentAuthorMogens
- CommentTimeFeb 19th 2018
Steven wrote
Really? There's a lot of African drumming and chanting I would scrap.
Luminous beings are we.. Not this crude matter. -
- CommentTimeFeb 19th 2018
Steven wrote
Really? There's a lot of African drumming and chanting I would scrap.
All that African drumming and chanting is essential to the scores success and unique sound pallet. Thats like saying there’s too much choir in The Omen.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorMogens
- CommentTimeFeb 19th 2018
Erik Woods wrote
Steven wrote
Really? There's a lot of African drumming and chanting I would scrap.
All that African drumming and chanting is essential to the scores success and unique sound pallet. Thats like saying there’s too much choir in The Omen.
-Erik-
What I think Steven was trying to say - that's certainly how I understood his comment - is that there is simply a lot of redundancy here, not that the drumming and chanting shouldn't be there.
The big problem for me is the running time. At 95 minutes - and even at the 69 you suggested, Erik - the album is just far too long. There's a real fine - although IMO not spectacularly good - 50 minute album buried here.Luminous beings are we.. Not this crude matter. -
- CommentTimeFeb 19th 2018
Then strip 19 minutes from my playlist.
I agree the 90 minute running time doesn’t work but I listened to my version last night and I think it works much better. It really is a fantastic score.
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- CommentTimeFeb 19th 2018
To legitimate an expanded or complete release the music needs to have stood the test of time. For current releases I prefer a well produced album. To get thrown the lot of the material seems lazy. For me the enjoyment of the music is often determined by how much I like the film. So for my personal film favourites C&C releases are a way to relive the film on the abstract level of music. Yet well done albums have an aesthetic appeal in their own right.
VolkerBach's music is vibrant and inspired. -
- CommentTimeFeb 19th 2018
Mogens wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Steven wrote
Really? There's a lot of African drumming and chanting I would scrap.
All that African drumming and chanting is essential to the scores success and unique sound pallet. Thats like saying there’s too much choir in The Omen.
-Erik-
What I think Steven was trying to say - that's certainly how I understood his comment - is that there is simply a lot of redundancy here, not that the drumming and chanting shouldn't be there.
I'd want to cut out choir from The Omen if there was too much of it. But there isn't, so I don't. -
- CommentTimeFeb 20th 2018
Steven wrote
Black Panther Ludwig Göransson
The theme is pretty solid, but most of it is so boring.
Trying Erik's 70-minute playlist and even this is a struggle. It's certainly a distinctive sound but it's such a tedious listen. And I like percussion.The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorjb1234
- CommentTimeFeb 20th 2018
FalkirkBairn wrote
Steven wrote
Black Panther Ludwig Göransson
The theme is pretty solid, but most of it is so boring.
Trying Erik's 70-minute playlist and even this is a struggle. It's certainly a distinctive sound but it's such a tedious listen. And I like percussion.
Yeah, I'm having trouble with it too. But he retained the first seven cues and just getting through those was a struggle when I first listened to the full album, haha. It's probably just not a score for me. I don't really care for all the drumming. -
- CommentTimeFeb 20th 2018
Wow! The first 30 minutes is what grabbed a hold of me during my first listen! Wonderful, creative, interesting ideas with a great heroic theme and some of the best percussion work I've heard in a score in a long time. IMO, there's a wonderful flow to the music. Oh well...
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentTimeFeb 20th 2018
I'm enjoying it on the most part. Some of it kind of reminds me of Goldsmith in "Africa mode".
Definitely one of the top tier Marvel scores for me! -
- CommentTimeFeb 20th 2018
Listening to some classics:
All for Mankind - Brian Eno
Some of the finest film music of all time this, and it is also Eno's best film score. Mood music has rarely been done better.
Brother - Joe Hisaishi
This score contains some of the best film music of all time too. One of the 10 best scores of 2000 and and a top 20 Hisaishi score.
Stalker - Eduard Artemyev
This is some of the best film music of all time this as well. The two cues Train and Meditation in particular. -
- CommentAuthorjb1234
- CommentTimeFeb 20th 2018
Star Trek: Insurrection - Jerry Goldsmith
I have a deep affection for this late-period Goldsmith score. Beautiful opening theme (shockingly barely used), thundering action music and as usual with this composer, far better than the film it was written for. -
- CommentTimeFeb 20th 2018 edited
Washu wrote
Listening to some classics:
All for Mankind - Brian Eno
Some of the finest film music of all time this, and it is also Eno's best film score. Mood music has rarely been done better.
"For All Mankind"
I agree. One might mention that the music was released on the album Soundtracks and Atmospheres
VolkerBach's music is vibrant and inspired. -
- CommentTimeFeb 20th 2018
jb1234 wrote
Star Trek: Insurrection - Jerry Goldsmith
I have a deep affection for this late-period Goldsmith score. Beautiful opening theme (shockingly barely used), thundering action music and as usual with this composer, far better than the film it was written for.
I love that score and I also like the film quite a bit. Probably the most "Roddenberryan" story since The Motion Picture.
VolkerBach's music is vibrant and inspired. -
- CommentTimeFeb 21st 2018
NP: Que Baje Dios y Lo Vea - Fernando Velázquez
An enjoyable score for this Spanish comedy. Some familiar comedic score devices mixed with religious elements (tubular bell and organ) make this a typically accomplished score from Velázquez.The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentTimeFeb 21st 2018 edited
Black Panther Ludwig Göransson
It's growing on me, but I'd still want to cut it down to about 40-50 minutes (admittedly the long running time didn't do it any favours on my first listen). There's some excellent stuff here. I wouldn't put it above Ant-Man or Giacchino's scores, but it's definitely up there. -
- CommentTimeFeb 21st 2018
Ant-Man Christophe Beck
Looking back at the Marvel Cinematic Universe's beginnings, it's a miracle that a score like this was written for one of their films. It's not a masterpiece, few things are, but it does have a personality. It's a score that created a sound for Ant-Man.
I hope Marvel allow Silvestri creative freedom on the upcoming Disney's Marvel's Cinematic Universe The Avengers: Infinity War Part I and II. -
- CommentAuthorEdmund Meinerts
- CommentTimeFeb 21st 2018
With a title like that, creative freedom is a given, no? -
- CommentTimeFeb 21st 2018
my sources tell me Silvestri is orchestrating Infinity War for banjo and kazoo. And I have the best sources, folks.Bach's music is heartless and robotic. -
- CommentTimeFeb 21st 2018
Black Panther Ludwig Göransson
Yes it’s far too long but I’m really enjoying this, full of attitude and emotion.
I saw the excellent film (the score is great in context) with an African audience here in Mwanza, I don’t think I’ve ever felt a crowd more energised in a cinema before! -
- CommentTimeFeb 21st 2018
Edmund Meinerts wrote
With a title like that, creative freedom is a given, no?
My lawyers are advising me to say yes. -
- CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2018 edited
NP: THE PERFECT STORM - James Horner
Definitely worthy of an official expansion but the naughty version will do for now. So much to enjoy here.
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- CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2018
Steven wrote
It's not a masterpiece,
Oh, it's bloody perfect!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2018
NP: Le Retour du Héros - Mathieu Lamboley
This is a score of mixed messages! Set in Napoleonic France the music seems to have its roots in the Spaghetti Western! The score features (amongst other things) harpsichord (a nod to the French setting), twangy guitar, tolling tubular bells, wordless vocals and a great title theme that would sound good in a western. But it also features music in the style of the period.
Lamboley's score is immensely entertaining and an early highlight for the year.The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2018
LSH wrote
NP: THE PERFECT STORM - James Horner
Definitely worthy of an official expansion but the naughty version will do for now. So much to enjoy here.
I've never looked back at the official album ever since it was uploaded. It's a top 10, maybe top 5 score for me.