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- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
Christodoulides wrote
Nautilus wrote
NP:Knowing (Beltrami)
A lot of Beltramierisms, but I enjoy it more than other of his scores.
This scores include some new ideas in Beltrami's usual list of tricks, but what I specially enjoy are Goldenthal moments in the last tracks.
"new York" is really, really Impressive!
Lots of underscore....very, very dragging. Few good tracks.
There are more than a few good tracks. It's a superb score with a few slow moving cues that do drag but I still think it's one of the year's best!
-Erik-
PS - You need to use a different word than underscore for atmospheric tracks. The entire score is underscore.host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009 edited
NP: THE INTERNATIONAL - Tom Tykwer, Johnny Kllimek, Reinhold Heil
Sure, it has its moments, but overall, this is a dronefest I didn't expect after the brilliant Perfume. Of course, I never expected something on that level or style, but its a drastic drop in intelligence of writing and inventiveness, repeating the same trics for way too long (many which already appeared in Land of the Dead) without any significant development. I love the work of Cliff Martinez and David Julyan, but this is, for a big part, something Tyler Bates could have composed. -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
NP: Back To Future Trilogy - Alan Silvestri
LOVE these scores. Some of the finest action scoring ever. -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
Erik Woods wrote
Christodoulides wrote
Nautilus wrote
NP:Knowing (Beltrami)
A lot of Beltramierisms, but I enjoy it more than other of his scores.
This scores include some new ideas in Beltrami's usual list of tricks, but what I specially enjoy are Goldenthal moments in the last tracks.
"new York" is really, really Impressive!
Lots of underscore....very, very dragging. Few good tracks.
There are more than a few good tracks. It's a superb score with a few slow moving cues that do drag but I still think it's one of the year's best!
-Erik-
So agree with that. The best of the year so far, and one of the best of the year once we reach the end of 2009 IMO. "Caleb Leaves" is one of Beltrami´s alltime highlights.Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
DemonStar wrote
NP: Back To Future Trilogy - Alan Silvestri
LOVE these scores. Some of the finest action scoring ever.
Good play
NP : LE CINEMA DE Georges Delerue
Some wonderful gems on this 6 CD box set, I'm playing disc 5 which has a lot of tracks I'm not overly acquainted with.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
Erik Woods wrote
PS - You need to use a different word than underscore for atmospheric tracks. The entire score is underscore.
I'm always confused by the use of the word "underscore" as an insult. All film music is underscore! I guess it's a language thing. -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
Is there any upperscore?Labels are for cans, not people. - Anthony Rapp -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009 edited
I don't find "underscore" insulting. But it is scores like LoTR being referred to as "Background Score" I find very annoying! -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009 edited
Southall wrote
I'm always confused by the use of the word "underscore" as an insult. All film music is underscore! I guess it's a language thing.
I always understood the term 'underscore' was given for music that is just that, nothing more; music that accompanies a scene, but is essentially going nowhere, has no intelligence or structure and isn't interesting outside the film. Other then atmospheric scoring; this isn't essentially going anywhere, but can be interesting outside of the film (The Prestige, for example), specifically because it's not just sound, but there's more to it. -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
As far as I'm concerned a proper score is very much a part of the foreground. Almost everyone is subconciously as affected by it as by the visuals. It is very effective both in its presence and absence. -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
Southall wrote
Erik Woods wrote
PS - You need to use a different word than underscore for atmospheric tracks. The entire score is underscore.
I'm always confused by the use of the word "underscore" as an insult. All film music is underscore! I guess it's a language thing.
I never thought "underscore" is an insulting word. Maybe some people think so because it sounds like "underwear"?
NP: PonyoLabels are for cans, not people. - Anthony Rapp -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
Miya wrote
Maybe some people think so because it sounds like "underwear"?
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- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
Miya wrote
Southall wrote
Erik Woods wrote
PS - You need to use a different word than underscore for atmospheric tracks. The entire score is underscore.
I'm always confused by the use of the word "underscore" as an insult. All film music is underscore! I guess it's a language thing.
I never thought "underscore" is an insulting word.
Well I've read the phrase "too much underscore" countless times. I do know what those who say it are referring to but I've never had a problem with it personally. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
LSH wrote
Miya wrote
Southall wrote
Erik Woods wrote
PS - You need to use a different word than underscore for atmospheric tracks. The entire score is underscore.
I'm always confused by the use of the word "underscore" as an insult. All film music is underscore! I guess it's a language thing.
I never thought "underscore" is an insulting word.
Well I've read the phrase "too much underscore" countless times. I do know what those who say it are referring to but I've never had a problem with it personally.
Same here. Though D used the term 'underscore' I still understood exactly what he meant.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009 edited
NP:Independence day Complete (Arnold)
My less favourite of his scores for Emmerich movies. Just because I'm too familiar with the themes and the ridiculous scenes of the movie. So I prefer listen the exotic Stargate or the dark Godzilla (am I the onlly one? ).
But still one of these scores to die for, the percussion is just amazing.
"base attack"
PS: Tomorrow never dies theme for the First Lady is funny -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
Il Gattopardo (The Leopard) - Nino Rota (1963)
This is Rota how I prefer him: wildly Romantic and sentimental in his best "Romeo And Juliet" vein.
It's this sort of music, hammering overwhelming emotion right into your jugular vein with unabashed abandon, I always like the best.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
LSH wrote
NP: The Tower - Christopher Young
Subtle, emotive and intelligent scoring - well worth checking out.
Love it!
Today i've heard a lot of Goodies:
JOSEPH VITARELLI and ROB LANE - John Adams
TV music doesn't get any better; magnificent and heartfelt.
EDWARD NICOLAI ARTEMYEV - the barber of Siberia
One of the weirdest mixes and at the same time - most charming orchestral scores i've ever heard
BILL BROWN and some other dude - Command and Conquer: Generals
Game music at its most notable
REINHOLD HEIL / JOHNNY KLIMER / TOM TYKWER - Perfume: the story of a murderer
Some call it Baroque Porn music. I call it a modern film music masterpiece.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
Marselus wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Christodoulides wrote
Nautilus wrote
NP:Knowing (Beltrami)
A lot of Beltramierisms, but I enjoy it more than other of his scores.
This scores include some new ideas in Beltrami's usual list of tricks, but what I specially enjoy are Goldenthal moments in the last tracks.
"new York" is really, really Impressive!
Lots of underscore....very, very dragging. Few good tracks.
There are more than a few good tracks. It's a superb score with a few slow moving cues that do drag but I still think it's one of the year's best!
-Erik-
So agree with that. The best of the year so far, and one of the best of the year once we reach the end of 2009 IMO. "Caleb Leaves" is one of Beltrami´s alltime highlights.
Are we listening to the same score?Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
Martijn wrote
Il Gattopardo (The Leopard) - Nino Rota (1963)
This is Rota how I prefer him: wildly Romantic and sentimental in his best "Romeo And Juliet" vein.
It's this sort of music, hammering overwhelming emotion right into your jugular vein with unabashed abandon, I always like the best.
Thanks! That's given me a great idea....
NP : ROMEO & JULIET - Nino Rota
One of the greatest romantic scores ever written with themes and melodies to die for, beautiful, just beautiful.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
Nautilus wrote
So I prefer listen the exotic Stargate or the dark Godzilla (am I the onlly one? ).
I prefer Godzilla out of the three, but I'm not a big fan of Stargate by any means. -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
Anthony wrote
Nautilus wrote
So I prefer listen the exotic Stargate or the dark Godzilla (am I the onlly one? ).
I prefer Godzilla out of the three, but I'm not a big fan of Stargate by any means.
Why not? repetitive? -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
Nautilus wrote
Anthony wrote
Nautilus wrote
So I prefer listen the exotic Stargate or the dark Godzilla (am I the onlly one? ).
I prefer Godzilla out of the three, but I'm not a big fan of Stargate by any means.
Why not? repetitive?
It's too "epic", too much choir, generally too loud for my liking (which is something I rarely say). -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
Timmer wrote
NP : ROMEO & JULIET - Nino Rota
One of the greatest romantic scores ever written with themes and melodies to die for, beautiful, just beautiful.
YES, IT IS!
One of my perennial favourites, and arguably one of the most powerful and emotional film scores in history.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
Christodoulides wrote
Marselus wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Christodoulides wrote
Nautilus wrote
NP:Knowing (Beltrami)
A lot of Beltramierisms, but I enjoy it more than other of his scores.
This scores include some new ideas in Beltrami's usual list of tricks, but what I specially enjoy are Goldenthal moments in the last tracks.
"new York" is really, really Impressive!
Lots of underscore....very, very dragging. Few good tracks.
There are more than a few good tracks. It's a superb score with a few slow moving cues that do drag but I still think it's one of the year's best!
-Erik-
So agree with that. The best of the year so far, and one of the best of the year once we reach the end of 2009 IMO. "Caleb Leaves" is one of Beltrami´s alltime highlights.
Are we listening to the same score?
This from the guy who thinks The Uninvited is brilliant!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
Anthony wrote
Nautilus wrote
Anthony wrote
Nautilus wrote
So I prefer listen the exotic Stargate or the dark Godzilla (am I the onlly one? ).
I prefer Godzilla out of the three, but I'm not a big fan of Stargate by any means.
Why not? repetitive?
It's too "epic", too much choir, generally too loud for my liking (which is something I rarely say).
And what about Independece Day? -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009 edited
I am not alone. Whilst on the KNOWING, i think it's you and Marcel Don't take me wrong, i like it, but i think it's far from being among this year's bests and certainly not in the best works of Beltrami.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009 edited
Christodoulides wrote
I am not alone. Whilst on the KNOWING, i think it's you and Marcel
Read the other boards, my friend! A lot of people are singing KNOWING'S praises! Listen to it again. You are harping far too much on the lighter cues and missing the boat on the others. The last 5 scores beat the crap out of ANYTHING composed this year so far! And "Door Jam" and "New York" are some of the most impressive cues I've heard in a long time!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
They're very nice indeed. I prefer I,Robot thoughLove Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009 edited
Christodoulides wrote
I am not alone. Whilst on the KNOWING, i think it's you and Marcel Don't take me wrong, i like it, but i think it's far from being among this year's bests and certainly not in the best works of Beltrami.
Agree with you.
( I don't know if this will be good or bad for you )
Knowing has a good action track "New York" and , yes, the last 3 tracks are epic, but nothing new. I mean it's Beltrami's typical melody (Very close to Hellboy) and some Goldenthal touches.
The whole score seems trying to be music for some kind of Night Shaymalan movie.
It's an Ok score, but nothing memorable. I do think 3:10 to Yuma is One of Beltrami's best works. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeMar 22nd 2009
Christodoulides wrote
They're very nice indeed. I prefer I,Robot though
Don't worry D, I'm with you. It's good, but it's far from great. The opening action cues and closing dramatic cues are decent, but the middle part is a bore.