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      CommentAuthorMiya
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2009 edited
    I just watched Takeshi Kitano's Kikujiro no Natsu (Kikujiro).

    It's very weird, funny, but still very moving film. The story is basic, but a lot of weird but likable characters made it original. I love the way how the two kids grow up through their journey. smile

    I only knew Kitano as a TV comedian. From now I must check out his works as a director/actor. (But I assume this is not his typical film?)

    Oh and Hisaishi's score... I'd say his music is the emotion of the film! Summer theme is very beautiful even outside the film, as some people here might know. But in the film, even though there aren't many cues (only 40 minutes of score in a 2 hour+ film), it's so effective. Some may say it's overscored, but I say it's appropriate. All the emotional scenes are more emotional because of his music. Yeah I wept! cheesy

    In the main title sequence, only the composer/music supervisor's name was credited except the director. It shows how important his music is cool
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2009
    Prince Caspian

    What a very pleasant surprise. Wasn't a great fan of the first film (it was OK but could have been so much more). This was considerably superior. If it weren't for the horrible cheap MV-isms in the score then the film would have been much better still. There are moments that Gregson-Williams scored very well; and others, he made laughable. Never mind. Some day the good music will return.
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2009
    VANTAGE POINT

    This movie has got considerably worse over the three times I've seen it. Never again.
  1. Miya wrote
    I just watched Takeshi Kitano's Kikujiro no Natsu (Kikujiro).

    It's very weird, funny, but still very moving film. The story is basic, but a lot of weird but likable characters made it original. I love the way how the two kids grow up through their journey. smile

    I only knew Kitano as a TV comedian. From now I must check out his works as a director/actor. (But I assume this is not his typical film?)


    He has a tendency to stand back and watch things unfold from a distance as a director. There is certainly variety within his work, and KIKUJIRO has a fairly unique story among his films (more personal, I hear), but the style is very much his style as a director.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009
    Southall wrote
    Prince Caspian

    What a very pleasant surprise. Wasn't a great fan of the first film (it was OK but could have been so much more). This was considerably superior. If it weren't for the horrible cheap MV-isms in the score then the film would have been much better still. There are moments that Gregson-Williams scored very well; and others, he made laughable. Never mind. Some day the good music will return.


    That score is horrible indeed; haven't watched the movie, nor the 1st one either, nor do i plan to. But that score is just wrong.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009
    Anthony wrote
    VANTAGE POINT

    This movie has got considerably worse over the three times I've seen it. Never again.


    You've seen it 3 times!?!?
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009
    Christodoulides wrote
    Anthony wrote
    VANTAGE POINT

    This movie has got considerably worse over the three times I've seen it. Never again.


    You've seen it 3 times!?!?


    I was wondering that too. It took you THREE VIEWINGS to realise something was crap Anthony? confused
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009
    John Q

    We were drunk, ok? Jeez. slant
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009
    Steven wrote
    John Q

    We were drunk, ok? Jeez. slant


    What is John Q?
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009
    I think it's porn?

    (Educated guess, based on the operatives +Steven +drunk )
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorkeky
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009
    Christodoulides wrote
    Southall wrote
    Prince Caspian

    What a very pleasant surprise. Wasn't a great fan of the first film (it was OK but could have been so much more). This was considerably superior. If it weren't for the horrible cheap MV-isms in the score then the film would have been much better still. There are moments that Gregson-Williams scored very well; and others, he made laughable. Never mind. Some day the good music will return.


    That score is horrible indeed; haven't watched the movie, nor the 1st one either, nor do i plan to. But that score is just wrong.


    I agree that the film is superior to the first one but I wouldn't call the music horrible even though I preferred the score of the first film. The music of this second chapter was a bit loud for my taste but compared to some other modern-day film music it's not horrible at all.
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009
    keky wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    Southall wrote
    Prince Caspian

    What a very pleasant surprise. Wasn't a great fan of the first film (it was OK but could have been so much more). This was considerably superior. If it weren't for the horrible cheap MV-isms in the score then the film would have been much better still. There are moments that Gregson-Williams scored very well; and others, he made laughable. Never mind. Some day the good music will return.


    That score is horrible indeed; haven't watched the movie, nor the 1st one either, nor do i plan to. But that score is just wrong.


    I agree that the film is superior to the first one but I wouldn't call the music horrible even though I preferred the score of the first film. The music of this second chapter was a bit loud for my taste but compared to some other modern-day film music it's not horrible at all.


    I much preferred this score to that in the first film (made a much greater impression). Only parts were horrible, which were when he scored what should be "timeless"-type scenes with very modern music. The other parts - when admittedly you could sometimes hear the Lord of the Rings temp-track seeping through - were far superior. It's a shame that many of the film's pivotal moments received the worst scoring (worst of all being the song near the end - though presumably that wasn't HGW's fault!)
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009
    Steven wrote
    John Q

    We were drunk, ok? Jeez. slant


    Why? It's a good movie, from what i remember.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  2. Timmer wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    Anthony wrote
    VANTAGE POINT

    This movie has got considerably worse over the three times I've seen it. Never again.


    You've seen it 3 times!?!?


    I was wondering that too. It took you THREE VIEWINGS to realise something was crap Anthony? confused


    Vantage Point is far from being crap, it's actually quite decent. I liked the puzzle-style buildup of the movie.
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009
    Yeah; but THREE TIMES!?
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009
    Christodoulides wrote
    Yeah; but THREE TIMES!?


    louder D....THREE TIMES!!!!!?


    ...and personally I thought Vantage Point was convoluted rubbish with a cop out ending...I have no intention of seeing it a second time let alone THREE. wink
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009
    Timmer wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    Anthony wrote
    VANTAGE POINT

    This movie has got considerably worse over the three times I've seen it. Never again.


    You've seen it 3 times!?!?


    I was wondering that too. It took you THREE VIEWINGS to realise something was crap Anthony? confused


    Once at the cinema - I thought it was pretty good.
    Second time on a plane - A bit crap but I figured it was because I was watching on a 7" screen.
    Third and final time ever - I wanted to see it again as I remembered it being good the first time around. Oh how my opinion changed.

    vomit
  3. Timmer wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    Yeah; but THREE TIMES!?


    louder D....THREE TIMES!!!!!?


    ...and personally I thought Vantage Point was convoluted rubbish with a cop out ending...I have no intention of seeing it a second time let alone THREE. wink


    I quite liked it the first time, but it loses magic the moment you see it again, the unique aspect is gone

    It remains pretty decent, but somehow I wasn't captured by it the second time
    waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009 edited
    Grindhouse: Planet Terror

    The Rodriguez contribution to the infamous Tarantino doublebill (that unexplicably was cut in half for foreign distribution, thereby destroying its intended format: that of the eighties' drive-in double bill Z-grade blood-'n'-slasher film).

    Planet Terror tries to recapture the flavour (so to speak) of the early eighties' zombie/monster apocalypse film which had few redeeming features but some teenage nudity and a lot of very low-budget yet hyper-gross-out special effects.

    The thing about these films though is that they were shot by people like Craven and Carpenter and lesser gods to be throwaway nonsense. It didn't mean anything but a quick gore-fix for those that enjoy that kind of thing. No more.

    Now the point of a successful hommage or spoof is that it takes what's worthwhile or memorable in a medium and makes fun of it or references it in a pointed manner.

    Unfortunately, Rodriguez just settles for septupling the gore intensity (which makes it more silly than scary or funny) in what is sadly no more than a completely run of the mill zombie story.
    There are a few modern touch "ironic quips" but they come off stilted and pointless as there's nothing to bounce them off of. The stylistic elements ('old film' scratches and the film breaking during a nudie scene) fall dead by the wayside as the intended ironic distant feel of the film never comes to pass.

    Having been there for the "original run" of such films, I can honestly say this one is arguably no better than those (and slightly worse for all the pretense)... which means it's ultimately pointless.

    You're better off getting some friends together, get some popcorn and cheap rum, and put on 1985's Return Of The Living Dead and have a REALLY good time.

    1.5 out of 5

    The soundtrack by Graeme Revell and Robert Rodriguez echoes John Carpernter's work WAY too much to be really clever. (Yeah, we GOT IT. THANK YOU.)

    1.5 out of 5
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009
    On second thought it might be (and take this with a HUGE caveat) that the film just might work in the intended context of a double-bill in much the same way that Zucker-Abrams-Zucker films work: if you shoot off enough silliness per second, at some point the law of averages states you'll hit a live one... and with a never-ending barrage at some point you'll wear down your audience into simply havnig to go along with it.

    Anyway. Stay clear of the single-film release version.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
  4. Martijn, sorry to hear you didn't like Planet Terror

    I think alongside Death Proof it are gigantic crowd pleasers, if you acccept their own thought and visual big macho style. Both are superior in the way they present each style of the director well. I simply liked them very much

    Death Proof 8 out of 10

    Planet Terror 9 out of 10
    waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009
    It's made 20 years too late.
    It would have been a staple in 1987.

    Now it's just a film that could easily haev shot way back then, but with better (and gorier) special effects.
    What's the point?
    It's like remaking a Mister Clean commercial, but with more suds. slant

    The one funny thing I found was the outrageous Women In Cages "white flesh...for the black market!" trailer shown on a screen in the hideout somewhere: that film actually exists! I've seen it and it's gloriously trashy, unintentionally beating this whole misfire right out of the ballpark!
    And that may veryw ell be why this film has gone so hideously wrong: it's like trying to spoof an Ed Wood movie! You can't! In this day and age these films already are unwatchable and (utterly unintentionally) funny.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009
    Martijn

    Re : Return of The Living Dead

    Is that the one with Zombies talking down the mic of an ambulance saying "send more paramedics"?
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009 edited
    Saw Vicky and Christina in Barcelona.

    And I want to go to Barcelona, to see Vicky and Christina (and Marie Elena) ... in my hostel's bed.
    Kazoo
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009 edited
    Timmer wrote
    Martijn

    Re : Return of The Living Dead

    Is that the one with Zombies talking down the mic of an ambulance saying "send more paramedics"?


    biggrin frank nurse That's the one!
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009
    :zombie:
    Kazoo
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009
    Omg, where's Franky?
    Kazoo
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009 edited
    :fail: :non-fireworks: :depression: :gloom:
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2009 edited
    Martijn wrote
    Timmer wrote
    Martijn

    Re : Return of The Living Dead

    Is that the one with Zombies talking down the mic of an ambulance saying "send more paramedics"?


    biggrin :frankenstein: nurse That's the one!


    I thought so!? What a film, I'd love to see that again, I can't think of too many more films that would go down such a hoot with a group of beered up friends as Return of The Living Dead. punk

    frank
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 31st 2009
    Martijn wrote
    On second thought it might be (and take this with a HUGE caveat) that the film just might work in the intended context of a double-bill in much the same way that Zucker-Abrams-Zucker films work: if you shoot off enough silliness per second, at some point the law of averages states you'll hit a live one... and with a never-ending barrage at some point you'll wear down your audience into simply havnig to go along with it.

    Anyway. Stay clear of the single-film release version.


    See the Tarantino feature instead, DEATH PROOF, a highly inferior and worthier film.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.