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- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeMar 16th 2009
BhelPuri wrote
I'll only differ in that I don't see what the fuss is about Freida Pinto. She has just the average Indian girl looks.
Then I guess average Indian looks are really exotic and attractive to me as a generic western boy.
Le Cercle Rouge (The Red Circle)
Ultra cool 1970s heist movie! Starring Alain Delon, Gian Maria Volonte and Yves Montand. Very well etched out characters. It's amazing how the heist scene had no dialogue or music but was top edge-of-the-seat stuff!
Sounds great!
That's one for me to seek out! Love Delon, love Volonte, love Montand!'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorMarselus
- CommentTimeMar 16th 2009
Martijn wrote
Le Cercle Rouge (The Red Circle)
Ultra cool 1970s heist movie! Starring Alain Delon, Gian Maria Volonte and Yves Montand. Very well etched out characters. It's amazing how the heist scene had no dialogue or music but was top edge-of-the-seat stuff!
Sounds great!
That's one for me to seek out! Love Delon, love Volonte, love Montand!
Great film!Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeMar 16th 2009
Martijn wrote
Quantum Of Solace
What the hell was this all about? A pretty generic revenge film without any plot to speak of.
Well, not any interesting plot to speak of at any rate.
Craig is gruffly mumbling his way through the coldest Bond performance to date (it's not bad. It IS however extremely unlikeable). There are some good set pieces. The action sequences are shot incoherently, confusingly and chaotic. I rarely got what was happening, but then I didn't care much either.
Olga Maffiamollenski does a surprisingly good Latina, though.
Still way better than the Brosnan ones though. But after the amazing Casino Royale (one of my favourite films ever), I feel we deserved something much better than this crap. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeMar 16th 2009
Timmer wrote
Christodoulides wrote
Didn't like it either, at all.
But latino women do certain thing surprisingly good.
Haven't seen it yet. To be honest I'm not keen on Craig as bond, too dry and humourless. Hell, he doesn't even look English.
He's my favourite. Granted, I'm not really a fan of the other films... not my thing really. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 16th 2009
Steven wrote
Timmer wrote
Christodoulides wrote
Didn't like it either, at all.
But latino women do certain thing surprisingly good.
Haven't seen it yet. To be honest I'm not keen on Craig as bond, too dry and humourless. Hell, he doesn't even look English.
He's my favourite. Granted, I'm not really a fan of the other films... not my thing really.
It's too James Bourne / Jason Bond for my liking now.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeMar 16th 2009
That's why I like it! I cringe at the older ones. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 16th 2009
Steven wrote
That's why I like it! I cringe at the older ones.
And I can understand that. Many of the older ones and right into the Brosnan era are camp but fun films IMO.
I like the Bourne films but Bond used to be the trailblazer not the copier.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeMar 16th 2009 edited
I even grew up with them (you know, ITV), but they've lost much of their appeal on me nowadays. Not being a Bond fan allows me to enjoy the Craig films without worrying too much about the direction of the character - of which I like where they've taken so far.
Plus, Olga is FIIIIIIINE. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 16th 2009
Fair 'nuff.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeMar 16th 2009
Anthony wrote
Martijn wrote
Quantum Of Solace
What the hell was this all about? A pretty generic revenge film without any plot to speak of.
Well, not any interesting plot to speak of at any rate.
Craig is gruffly mumbling his way through the coldest Bond performance to date (it's not bad. It IS however extremely unlikeable). There are some good set pieces. The action sequences are shot incoherently, confusingly and chaotic. I rarely got what was happening, but then I didn't care much either.
Olga Maffiamollenski does a surprisingly good Latina, though.
Still way better than the Brosnan ones though. But after the amazing Casino Royale (one of my favourite films ever), I feel we deserved something much better than this crap.
QoS is better than any of the Brosnan ones, I agree. And watching parts of A View to a Kill on tv the other day made me wonder whether my fond nostalgia for the Moore films is misplaced.
I didn't think QoS was terrible at all. Granted, it doesn't feel much like a Bond film, but neither did Casino Royale, which was excellent. It has its moments and I look forward to getting it on Blu. -
- CommentAuthorDreamTheater
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2009
Southall wrote
QoS is better than any of the Brosnan ones, I agree. And watching parts of A View to a Kill on tv the other day made me wonder whether my fond nostalgia for the Moore films is misplaced.
I didn't think QoS was terrible at all. Granted, it doesn't feel much like a Bond film, but neither did Casino Royale, which was excellent. It has its moments and I look forward to getting it on Blu.
Solace better than Goldeneye? Since I love Goldeneye, logically I should like Solace even more. No really, I don't know what to expect, after reading some reviews and comments. I think it's great they wanted a follow-up to Casino Royale, which was a good Bond, but I keep hearing the movie is just a mess and a Bourne-wannabe. I will take it on good faith then and take it for what it is. And I personally think Craig does a fine job portraying this iconic character.
Will be renting it, not immediatly buying it just in case..."considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeMar 17th 2009
Iron Man
Cool, slick and modern, Fun, witty ('xcept for the obvious cliches), energetic and very entertaining, still i fail to understand how everyone suggests that it needed a different kind of score. IT CERTAINLY DESERVED A BETTER ONE than that pile of crap* but not on a very different style, imo. Say, if they brought CHRIS YOUNG to move into GHOST RIDER territories, that'd be uber-cool! But if i saw that film with a John William-esque leitmotif approach, i am sure i'd giggle heavily
* Interesting side-note: about halfway down that film, i asked my babe what did she think of the accompanying music. She rushed to ask me my opinion first, but i said i'll tell you afterwards, just tell me what YOU think. Her answer (note: she's a musicologist and a pianist, but doesn't know a lot about or deal particularly with film scores) verifies the obvious: i like the style, it fits that of the fun pop-corn movie's, but why does it have to sound so childishly simplistic as if it was intended for an 80's nintendo game?
Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorBhelPuri
- CommentTimeMar 18th 2009 edited
Los Amantes del Circulo Polar (Lovers on the Arctic Circle)
Spanish film. A love story with coincidences and symmetries having a lot of say. From the director of Sex and Lucia. Very well made. Alberto Iglesias' score is special! -
- CommentAuthorMarselus
- CommentTimeMar 18th 2009
BhelPuri wrote
Los Amantes del Circulo Polar (Lovers on the Arctic Circle)
Spanish film. A love story with coincidences and symmetries having a lot of say. From the director of Sex and Lucia. Very well made. Alberto Iglesias' score is special!
Totally agree. Julio Medem (the director) is my favourite spanish director. Some accuse him of making "the greatest movie ever made" everytime he directs a movie. And they may be right, but IMO he does such a personal kind of cinema. Love every film he´s ever done, specially this one you mention.Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeMar 18th 2009
Christodoulides wrote
Iron Man
SNIP!
Say, if they brought CHRIS YOUNG to move into GHOST RIDER territories, that'd be uber-cool! But if i saw that film with a John William-esque leitmotif approach, i am sure i'd giggle heavily
Chris Young's title theme for Ghost Rider would have been great! Not a fan of the rest of the Ghost Rider score. But a John Williams styled superhero score certainly would have worked too. I'm not talking about Superman here but a more edgy Williams work instead of Williams 70's fantasy would have been just fine! But composers like Young, Beltrami, Shearmur, Debney and Silvestri would have provided the film with so much more than Djawadi's mess. The metal montage cues were simply AWFUL!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeMar 18th 2009
Marselus wrote
BhelPuri wrote
Los Amantes del Circulo Polar (Lovers on the Arctic Circle)
Spanish film. A love story with coincidences and symmetries having a lot of say. From the director of Sex and Lucia. Very well made. Alberto Iglesias' score is special!
Totally agree. Julio Medem (the director) is my favourite spanish director. Some accuse him of making "the greatest movie ever made" everytime he directs a movie. And they may be right, but IMO he does such a personal kind of cinema. Love every film he´s ever done, specially this one you mention.
LOVE IT!Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 18th 2009
Erik Woods wrote
Christodoulides wrote
Iron Man
SNIP!
Say, if they brought CHRIS YOUNG to move into GHOST RIDER territories, that'd be uber-cool! But if i saw that film with a John William-esque leitmotif approach, i am sure i'd giggle heavily
Chris Young's title theme for Ghost Rider would have been great! Not a fan of the rest of the Ghost Rider score. But a John Williams styled superhero score certainly would have worked too. I'm not talking about Superman here but a more edgy Williams work instead of Williams 70's fantasy would have been just fine! But composers like Young, Beltrami, Shearmur, Debney and Silvestri would have provided the film with so much more than Djawadi's mess. The metal montage cues were simply AWFUL!
-Erik-
Any suggestion that Williams wouldn't be right to have scored a film like Iron Man would be plain daft.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeMar 18th 2009
I don't think the traditional leitmotif approach fits IRON MAN. The movie is fun and entertaining but departed from that style. Of course Djawadi's mess is a crap, that's not the point; the discussion here is musical style.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeMar 18th 2009
Christodoulides wrote
I don't think the traditional leitmotif approach fits IRON MAN.
Why not... give Iron Man a theme! Give the bad guy a theme... can't hurt!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 18th 2009
Erik Woods wrote
Christodoulides wrote
I don't think the traditional leitmotif approach fits IRON MAN.
Why not... give Iron Man a theme! Give the bad guy a theme... can't hurt!
-Erik-
I'd call it a bonus.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 18th 2009
Martijn
Have you seen WATCHMEN yet?
I haven't but intend to; I want to hear the opinion of someone who knows the graphic novel.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeMar 18th 2009
Erik Woods wrote
Christodoulides wrote
I don't think the traditional leitmotif approach fits IRON MAN.
Why not... give Iron Man a theme! Give the bad guy a theme... can't hurt!
-Erik-
Indeed. I don't imagine Williams would actually do it even if asked, but I don't see that the style would have presented any problems. Actually it's disappointing that people have become so accustomed to RC-style dreck that they think it's the right approach. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeMar 18th 2009 edited
I thought I'd have some fun with this IRON MAN business and put some orchestral music over one of the action sequences. Here are two examples featuring the music of Alan Silvestri's ERASER.
This version features a sample of "Kruger's Escape"
SAMPLE #1
And a more cheeseball version with a heroic main theme!
SAMPLE #2
The music mix is really loud to drown out Djawadi's crappy score!
Enjoy!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorThomas Glorieux
- CommentTimeMar 18th 2009
the first sample is really good, fits well
But isn't sample 2 the same as sample 1?
waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeMar 18th 2009
Thomas Glorieux wrote
But isn't sample 2 the same as sample 1?
Nope... same score different cue.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeMar 18th 2009
A theme would be good indeed, but a traditionally orchestral leitmotif approach led by horns and trumpets on an army dealer dude who eats cheezburgers and dresses on shiny cool fast and the furious-esque metallic gear going killing bad guys, isn't exactly the greatest marriage, imo.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeMar 18th 2009
But orchestral doesn't mean it has to sound like Max Steiner. Demolition Man is orchestral. Do you seriously think an RC approach is a better fit for Iron Man than a kick-ass Goldenthal orchestral work (yes, with leitmotifs)? -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeMar 18th 2009
No, it's not a matter of RC or not. I said "something in the vein of Ghost Rider by Young". You misunderstood me.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeMar 18th 2009
or S.W.A.T for the matter. Just NOT Superman-esque.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeMar 19th 2009
Christodoulides wrote
No, it's not a matter of RC or not. I said "something in the vein of Ghost Rider by Young". You misunderstood me.
Oops, looks like I did. (No great fan of Ghost Rider myself, but Young could certainly have written a very good score for Iron Man.)